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Olly: Help with analysis26 Nov 2004 10:26
Hi there

In the song analysis section I do not understand what is meant by 8+7+2 phrasing and square phrasing and 4+4+4+5 etc

Thanks
1.Sebastian 27 Nov 2004 10:03
Ok, I don`t know very much how to explain it in proper terms, a phrase is an agrupation of measures. In most of cases the groups are 4, for example in Stand By Me, you can count 4 measures and you can sense another phrase is starting.

Square phrasing as I understand it is phrasing of 2 with some exponent (i.e. even numbered). For example the intro of Killer Queen is a phrase of 2 measures. Most sections in rock/pop music are 6 measure-long, divided in four four-measure phrases (4x4, a square). That`s the usual.
2.PD 08 Dec 2004 11:03
There is an introductive for music theory on the opening page of Song Analysis.
 
it says with some lines added:

Phrasing
The sections (Verse, Chorsu) of pop-songs are often 4, 8, 12, 16 measures long. These sections are often built out of phrases of even number and length. The musical phrases are often can be assigned to lyrical phrases/lines even if the two usually don't cover eachother perfectly (eg an upbeat vocal pickup precedes the start of the related musical phrase).
 Good songwriters use both even and uneven phrasing, while throwaway (or rookie) songwriters rarely or simply never use uneven phrasing. If you want to know more about how big part of FM-pop uses strictly even phrasing, just switch on the radio! Related tricks to mention are the phrase shortening and the use of half measure. The avoidance of uneven phrasing and the use half measures are not a direct sign of "disposable" songwriting at all, but great musical minds can more easily (even unconsciously) break the four-squared metric and phrasing frames
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